
I had a conversation the other day that helped me re-ignite a fire…
A fire I had forgotten about.
And it took me screwing up and self-correcting to finally get to the right spot.
Here’s what happened earlier this week…
I met with a woman I don’t know very well. She reached out to me because she has just been given a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis. She said she felt she had a triple digit amount of weight to lose. She doesn’t know where to start.
She asked me to tell her how I lost weight and reversed Type 2 diabetes. She said she wanted to hear my story.
I was trying to find the right words to help her understand a few things about what I had encountered that I thought might be specifically helpful to her. I was trying to explain that my journey was not linear. It was not easy, nor over.
The trade offs were life changing in every possible, positive way immaginable.
I explained that I remembered the day I mentally understood that I was trading medicine prescribed in a pill bottle and syringe for MEDICINE in the form of healthy, nutrient dense foods.
I remembered when I finally understood I was trading a lifetime of being lazy, inactive and comfortable for a new lease on life that would make me wildly uncomfortable and have me running in the woods and facing exhilarating fears head on.
I understood I was in the life-long process of building a whole new lifestyle.
I wanted her to understand that with every fiber of my being, I had become willing to trade certain death with Type 2 diabetes for a chance at what I knew could be a life worth living out loud, fiercely and completely each day.
So I’m in this conversation with this woman and I have this intense energy building in my head and chest to try to help her understand ME and my journey…
Yet I can see that I am failing in trying to help her understand that the power to save her own life lies in her own hands… I could see that she was overwhelmed with the task that was stretching out in front of her.
And then it FINALLY registered through my thick skull what it was I was actually seeing, feeling and experiencing with her…
My story, combined with her own journey winding out in front of her were BOTH scaring her.
A lot.
Beyond the tears, the averted eyes and bowed head — there was just fear. I could see it. She was trying hard to hide it. But it was too bag, too pervasive, too consuming.
I felt like I had to stop and re-group. For both of us.
I pulled out my best imitation of my ‘Wendie’ breathing techniques.
I stopped. Mid-sentence, mid-story. Sat up straight. Made solid eye contact and then I just took a few deep breaths.
DEEP, loud, intentional. That habit has become soothing for me in times of distress. When my friend Wendie Gum breathes that way — she can calm everyone around her… She can calm an entire freaking room of people. I have seen it happen. For real.
I was trying to steal just a bit of her magic. And hoping it would work to help me figure out how to put this conversation back on the right path.

And then I did something that’s hard for me to do.
Really hard.
I shut the hell up.
AND I started to listen to the silence.
I had been right to stop talking.
The silence was really, really tense and full.
So I just kept breathing.
I tried to convey to her, simply with my breathing and my eyes, that I could and would wait for her, WITH HER, in the fear and overwhelm.
I would willingly sit there ready to listen and just be with her for as long as she needed me to be there… I wanted her to know that struggling with emotions and words was safe and OK and warranted and healthy between us.
And then I waited for HER to fill the silence.
And she did.
Eventually.
And I let her talk, cry and grapple for words.
Which is what I should have done from the very beginning…
See, I have a fire burning in my heart and soul. I want everyone to catch the passion to CHANGE what’s broken in their lives. And to be fired up. And to be excited by the challenges in front of them.
I fundamentally understand that it has to be their OWN fire. I can’t tend it, can’t light it and have no right to even share in the warmth.
This conversation proved to be a perfect reminder for me. Spencer (coach) is always reminding me to respect, trust and work the process.
Well… It turns out that I really needed the reminder to RESPECT THAT PROCESS for others.
It’s NOT my process. Not my fire. Not my opportunity.
It. Is. Theirs.
And it was also a great reminder that I wasn’t always fired up and ready to take on the world. I sat there staring at her and could suddenly remember when I was terrified. And ashamed. And overwhelmed.
I could see me sitting across the table.
I remembered when I just wanted someone to listen. And understand. And not judge me. And maybe say something that I’d never heard before that I thought might just be POSSIBLE…
I was there in a similar, fire-less pit for a very long time. Too long.
And while I wanted someone to light the fire for me… I really just needed someone to listen and understand.
When that happened? THAT is when things finally caught fire for me.
I really want to be the person I so desperately NEEDED when I started on this journey.
The fire I have is really NOT to tell my story.
The fire I have in my soul is to HELP other people…
This week I was reminded that people don’t need to hear my story, they just need me to care about THEIR story.
Could listening actually ignite a fire?